In December 2023 I wrote a blog post about how 2023 had been the worst year for the persecution of Hen Harriers on UK grouse moors since the Government’s brood meddling sham trial began in 2018 (see here).

That blog was based on updated persecution figures provided by the RSPB, but it had a caveat – we were still waiting for updated figures from Natural England for the period between September – December 2023.
Today, Natural England has published an update to its Hen Harrier Satellite Tag Database (here), with details of the fates of all of its satellite tagged hen harriers up to December 2023.
I’ve just been through this database and tallied the details against my own running tally and have discovered that a further NINE satellite-tagged Hen Harriers have ‘disappeared’ in suspicious circumstances between Sept – Dec 2023. These ‘disappearances’ have not previously been reported.
The ‘missing’ birds are as follows:
- Male Hen Harrier ‘Rhys’, tagged in Cumbria on 1st August 2023, last known transmission from a grouse moor in the Yorkshire Dales National Park on 15 September 2023. Grid ref: SD798896.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘R2-F2-23’ brood meddled in 2023, last known transmission in the North Pennines on 24 September 2023. Grid ref: NY888062.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘R1-F4-22’ brood meddled in 2022, last known transmission from a grouse moor in the Yorkshire Dales National Park on 25 September 2023. Grid ref: SE077699.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘Hope’, tagged in Cumbria on 21 July 2023, last known transmission next to a grouse moor in the Yorkshire Dales National Park on 26 September 2023. Grid ref: SD801926.
- Male Hen Harrier ‘R1-M3-20’ brood meddled in 2020, last known transmission in Co Durham on 4 October 2023. Grid ref: NY935192.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘R4-F1-23’ brood meddled in 2023, last known transmission from a grouse moor in the Yorkshire Dales National Park on 4 October 2023. Grid ref: SE003981.
- Male Hen Harrier ‘Cillian’, tagged in Cumbria on 1 August 2023, last known transmission from south west Scotland on 14 October 2023. Grid ref: NY051946.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘Hazel’, tagged in Cumbria on 21 July 2023, last known transmission Isle of Man on 15 November 2023. Grid ref: SC251803.
- Female Hen Harrier ‘Gill’, tagged in Northumberland on 10 July 2023, last known transmission 27 November 2023 on Teeside (site location confidential).
I’ll add these additional nine Hen Harriers to the other 113 Hen Harriers known to have been killed/’disappeared’ since 2018 (see here).
In total then, by my reckoning, 33 Hen Harriers ‘disappeared’ in suspicious circumstances/were killed in 2023, and thirteen of those were brood meddled birds. This is the highest (known) number since 2018:
The total number of Hen Harriers (that we know of) that have ‘disappeared’ in suspicious circumstances / been killed since brood meddling began in 2018 has now reached 122 birds, and 27 of those were brood meddled birds.
Natural England has published a blog today (here) outlining these ‘higher than normal losses‘ and says: “We are concerned about this apparent increase in mortality, and are, as always, working with the police who investigate any possible illegal persecution“.
Funny, I haven’t seen a single press release/appeal for information about any of these nine birds from any of the police forces supposedly ‘investigating’ the suspicious disappearances of these harriers.
The Natural England blog also states that NE has “heightened concerns about illegal persecution” but then says “…we value our continued good working relationships with landowners who allow our fieldworkers access to carry out monitoring work“.
I note that the blog doesn’t include any hint that Natural England may be considering pulling the brood meddling licence, so its concerns can’t be that ‘heightened’.
How many Hen Harriers have to ‘disappear’, or have their wings pulled off, or their heads and legs twisted off whilst still alive, or their chicks stamped to death in the nest (on a grouse moor directly involved with the brood meddling trial!), or have their satellite tag harnesses deliberately cut off, before Natural England acknowledges that the brood meddling trial is a sham, that its ‘partners’ are sticking up two fingers, that its partners continue to deny that persecution is even happening, and that its partners are even claiming that brood meddling “is surely a shining example of human / wildlife conflict resolution that would be the envy of other countries trying to find similar solutions“??!!
Are those ‘donations’ to Natural England from the grouse shooting industry (here and here) really worth Natural England forfeiting its integrity? It would seem so.
This year is the final year of the (currently extended) brood meddling licence and Natural England will be making a decision about whether to extend it, again, for another two years.
I, and I dare say many others, will be demanding full transparency on that decision-making process.
It is blindingly obvious that one of the main objectives of the brood meddling trial has not been met, nor even come close to being met: (to test whether grouse moor managers would stop illegally killing Hen Harriers if nestlings were removed from grouse moors, under licence, reared in captivity and released elsewhere). On the basis of Natural England’s own data, and in conjunction with the RSPB’s satellite tagging data, the evidence couldn’t be clearer – the illegal killing hasn’t stopped, or even been reduced.
And it’s unlikely to, because as I’ve written previously, the grouse shooting industry can afford to be so audacious about its crimes because it knows that (a) the Hen Harrier killers are NEVER caught, (b) NEVER prosecuted, and (c) NEVER convicted.
122 Hen Harriers and counting, Natural England. You are presiding over one of the most shameful and idiotic greenwashing scams of our time, and for what?
UPDATE 31 January 2024: 122 hen harriers confirmed ‘missing’ or illegally killed in UK since 2018, most of them on or close to grouse moors (here)

122 hen harriers killed/disappeared since 2018 is a badge of honour for Tony the Tory Juniper.
“Tony the Tory Juniper”
Once again, you misrepresent Tony Juniper for your own political purposes.
Tony Juniper is an ex-Green Party Parliamentary candidate.
Tony juniper is a turncoat. ACW.
And what is the Green Party policy on Hen Harrier Brood Meddling, then?
I have said for years name who owns the land where these birds disappear, not saying that they are responsible but name the land owner.
Lord/earl whatever will soon get pissed off with their names appearing in print.
Disgusting – its as if the Wildlife and Countryside Act and its various amendments didnt exist..its as if wildlife conservation didnt exist and its as if the rule of law didnt exist – except when it comes to the peasants. Are none of our parliamentary representatives watching this?..are they content to live in a country where the only rules that seem to apply are those favoured by landowners and their lackeys?..Wake up and do your job…
Unfortunately the article is nothing but a load of lies and half truths coloured by the prejudices of the author.
That’s quite ironic – or maybe intentional mischief? You’ve directed your bollocks comment to someone who may well hold the world record for bagging up dead raptors illegally killed on grouse moors.
Hi David, could you point to the “load of lies and half truths” in this article please?
Well, the data on which it’s statements were based were clearly presented, whereas you just tossed off a a remark with no detailed argument to back it up. I would be very grateful if you could pen a fuller, evidenced, counter argument to illustrate what are ‘half truths’.
It would seem from my point of view that these 27 brood meddled hen harriers were raised in the full knowledge that there exists a strong lilihood that they will be persecuted. By doing so it presents to the public the concept that the powers that be are trying as hard as they can to increase the population of these birds. That sounds fair enough — until one acquaints onself with the efforts in other areas to reach the same goal — changing the law, steeper sentences for those convicted of offences against the birds, etc., etc.
Taken as a whole it would appear that biggest goal that that brood meddling attains is, again in my opinion, the misleading of the public in regards to the totality of the efforts they make in that direction which allows them to be convinced that this is the state of affairs … when most every non shooting individual involved in their ptotection would assert the oppositve, as would I.
However, in general terms, most of us could come to an agreement as to the components of character predominant in those who make their way to the top of the capialist pile and shoot birds and animals as a form of relaxation.
“It would seem from my point of view that these 27 brood meddled hen harriers were raised in the full knowledge that there exists a strong lilihood that they will be persecuted. By doing so it presents to the public the concept that the powers that be are trying as hard as they can to increase the population of these birds.”
I’m not sure the public are that easily fooled. I think the issue for them is simple enough:
No matter where Hen Harriers are artificially raised, they will inevitably find their way back to shooting estates, where they stand a high change of being illegally shot, trapped or poisoned.
In fact, the more Hen Harriers are raised in ‘safety’, the more will be illegally shot, trapped or poisoned, once it comes to the breeding season. Isn’t that what we are now seeing?
Everywhere the public may look the message is the same:
“In the British Isles, hen harriers nest and roost in heather on open, upland moors. They feed on
small mammals and birds such as meadow pipits, voles and occasionally young grouse.” – RSPB
“The beautiful, ghostly grey male and the brown, white-rumped female Hen Harrier are birds of wild places, upland moorland in the summer and coastal marshes during the winter.” – BTO
“Hen harriers live in open areas with low vegetation and like to nest on the ground of upland heather moorland during breeding season. In winter they relocate to lowlands, especially close to coastal areas, farmland, heathland, coastal marshes, fenland and river valleys.” – Forestry England
“In Britain, although both marsh harriers and Montagu’s harriers breed successfully in fields of crops, the hen harrier is now restricted to moorland in the breeding season and occurs on lowland farmland only in winter” – English Nature.
“Hen harriers are rare birds of prey that breed in the uplands of northern England.” – Natural England.
“In the spring, hen harriers head back to their heather moorland summer home.” – The Wildlife Trusts.
The portion of the public required to force real change in the Halls ofn Power has still not been reached. The percentage of the public who have the interest and the background to have a sufficiently wide view on this issue to react in the manner you postulate, other than the committed environmentalists and birds, is well below the amount required, sadly.
The problem is that the wealth and power of the Driven Grouse Lobby allows them access to regional newspapers any time they wish due to the immense influence most of them have in those regions at that level. i read two of these regional newspapers almost daily and see and inderstand the level of bias they incorporate…. and thus the general level and bi.as of that information.
This is an asymmetrical stru.ggle and will will remain that way.grousers see themselves as being above the law and behave in that manner almost all of thge time.
More direct tactics might be required — where camera’s, audio devices and other hi-tec devices might be required and the results widely publicised. Given the faqct that it happens continuously and involves illegal actions in the preperation, the commiting and the tidying up all it would take is a couple of insiders and those with an access to popular Internet Sites or publications.
“The portion of the public required to force real change in the Halls ofn Power has still not been reached.”
You do not know that. I think we have majority support, on this issue.
In the UK change comes through the ballot box. The biggest ballot box comes every five years. Unfortunately, a single vote cannot convey the voters views on every issue (and shooting is not the general public’s highest priority)
However, progress is being made in both Scotland and Wales… that, in itself, will bring pressure on England, sooner or later.
And every time the Government has consulted on this or related issues, outside of the ballot box, the weight of public opinion is heavily against shooting.
I am not denying that we are ‘up against it’, but the popularity of wildlife TV programmes speaks for itself…
Yes Keith, isn’t it amazing that they have used the same tactics for 75 years and things have only got worse? Time to change tactics possibly…. or is it worthwhile to keep banging away at that old rubber tree plant?
Its well known already to all those ‘concerned’ that the privileged big money humans who protect this disgusting practice of raising game birds ‘SPORT’, are still considered to be above the law😵💫😵💫😫😫and unless and until we peasants raise our voices loud enough, it will continue……
Nestling removed from nests on grouse moors, reared in captivity and released elsewhere. I’m sorry, but during their time in captivity they don’t get any instruction on avoiding grouse moors because they are the very places they like to live, hunt and breed. Has that not occurred to NE? Where does NE think these birds are going to go on release? Its inability to stop this nonsense is outrageous. What can be done?
I have no doubt that NE knows full well that, sooner or later, the brood-meddled young will end up in the danger areas on grouse moors. The only benefit which the grouse moor management derive from the scheme is that it lessens the effect of the adult harriers taking grouse chicks to feed to their young by removing them from area.
Lies and slander as usual from this writer, like a stuck record.
More Hen Harriers bred on grouse moors than any RSPB reserve.
Inexplicable then, that the biggest and best grouse moors have relatively speaking such poor luck in hosting successful breeding. One would think that the better managed the grouse moor, the better the outcome would be for Hen Harriers. But on the very top moors in England the very opposite seems to occur. One can only conclude that moors like Gunnerside, Knarsdale, East Allenheads, Stublick & Muggleswick, Bowes, Wemmergill, Bollihope, Abbeystead (to name but a few of the bigger operations) would benefit from taking a different approach and advice from RSPB as well as the statutory authority, whether they asked for it or not. These areas of land are collectively too huge – representing a significant proportion of our uplands, to allow failures to continue unaddressed, decade after decade.
Hi Greg,
Could you point to the “lies and slander” in this article please?
Although you’ll have a job detecting ‘slander’ given it refers to a verbal, temporary statement rather than a written statement. Do you even know what you’re accusing me of?!
One it is a direct quote from the NE release, adding to totals already confirmed by both NE and RSPB so it is neither lies nor slanderous. Perhaps if the record is stuck it is because the grouse shooters, owners and their lackeys continue ad finitum to kill harriers. Given that RSPB only own about 10,000 acres in England suitable for harrier nesting and on grouse moors the rate of nesting is about one pair per 25000 hectares you are taking tosh 9 but I wouldn’t expect anything else) The highest densities of successful harrier nests are on United utilities land in Bowland and Forestry England Land in Northumberland both with considerable RSPB presence ( so your claims are again tosh) Please explain yourself, especially when the nest failure rate on grouse moors is more than 3 times that on the aforementioned estates.
On the topic of nature reserves and grouse moors. I wish the RSPB would put more in the public domain about the history (and still ongoing saga) at RSPB Geltsdale. They should commission someone suitably qualified to research and write a book (if there is one – apologies, but it can’t be very prominent as I do look for these things) looking back 50 years and documenting the story in numbers of what happened to the Hen Harrier roosts & nesting attempts on the reserve subsequent to grouse moor management in the surrounding area intensifying in the 90’s. I acknowledge that occasions where TV news such as Alex Thomson Channel 4 have covered cases are highly valuable, but too many people are living in either genuine ignorance (perhaps like Greg, above) or wilful delusion about these things. RSPB will have usual decades of meticulous bird records for that reserve, these could be published within a narrative to form a case study that includes first hand accounts and documentary evidence, etc.
Unbelievable how this is happening, also very sickening. Anybody involved in this hideous pass-time should face the bare minimum of a couple of years in prison…. though that’s highly unlikely as they are rarely caught due to “blind-eyes” turning. I’m utterly disgusted and very disappointed.
This was oh so predictable. Actual conservationists, not shooters pretending to be conservationists, said this would happen. It has happened, and those behind this scheme, should admit they got it wrong. Unfortunately, hell would probably freeze over first.
And these are only the ones which we know about! I understand that roughly 25% of available young are tagged each year. On this estimation it is likely that around 130 birds were lost in 2023 alone. There will have been natural deaths, but even NE’s guarded comments suggest that something more untoward than usual was happening in 2023, especially in the latter months.
How much longer are the authorities going to wait before being seen to be doing something tangible to address the situation? I say this in the knowledge that another month has almost passed since the period covered by the table. The only thing which is likely to have reduced the rate of attrition during January is the simple fact that, given what has gone before, there are fewer available to be shot.
These are wonderful birds which are an absolute delight to watch. It is time that the authorities got a grip on the situation before numbers once again approach extinction in England.
Smoke and mirrors.
It’s never going to end this country is appalling lawless no care conscience or accountability for anything. The grouse moor owners are above the law it’s just not taken seriously at all. Just out of interest what happened to the one in the Isle of Man do they have grouse shooting there I only associate it with TT racing ??
https://www.gunsonpegs.com/shoots/isle-of-man/glen-auldyn-isle-of-man
Also, search for ‘Red Grouse’ and/or ‘Isle of Man’ here:
https://shootingsh.com/walked-up-areas
From:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00063657.2018.1476462#:~:text=Results%3A%20The%20UK%20and%20Isle,359%E2%80%93573)%20territorial%20pairs.
“On the Isle of Man, 30 territorial pairs were recorded (2016), one more than in 2010, although this is still substantially down on the 57 territorial pairs recorded in 2004”
http://manxbirdlife.im/hen-harrier-breeding-census-reveals-islands-population-of-iconic-bird-of-prey-to-be-stable-for-now/
https://www.mwt.im/wildlife-explorer/birds/birds-prey/hen-harrier
I have only seen alive on the Isle of mull that will probably be the only time in my life I’ll see one except on TV. All unbelievable and unacceptable.
Thankyou Keith everydays a school day been to the isle of man TT for numerous years was totally unaware of grouse shooting. Just ban the bloody lot pompous backward mentality all of it .
Even those among the general public who don’t really care too much about birds & wildlife ought to be alarmed by the fact that the rule of law doesn’t apply on most grouse moors. Landowners and Agents operate according to their own belief systems, on what they think is really right (nevermind the law) and they will only desist from this when the risk of being punished is real and penalties are high. The wider implication is also that these same people and their powerful friends in business and politics (who just just happen to be pretty significant in the running of the country!) may not be inclined to follow the rule of law in their other activities – whenever the laws don’t suit them.
Amazing how despite the death toll, Natural England still has to doff the cap to the landowners, fawning how they are able to visit their estates thanks to their magnanimous staff! Surely most of these sites are on right to roam land where they can go freely or are NE worried the gamekeepers will turn their guns and venom on their staff? I know of one Nidderdale gamekeeper who fumes when ramblers stray. BTW will the Isle of Man tourist board now have to temper its advertising about how its moors are a haven for rare wildlife?
Not really that amazing Tim, as the upper echelons of DEFRA are replete with Tory cronies!
I think it is disingenuous of you however not to mention that hen harriers are, despite these disappearances, at a 200 year high, largely as a result of this project…
It’s not disingenuous at all, Benjamin. The blog focuses on illegal persecution – not how many HHs there may currently be or were 200 years ago, but how many are still being killed, illegally, during a now 7-year trial to test whether gamekeepers would stop killing HHs if broods were removed, raised in captivity and released elsewhere.
“I think it is disingenuous of you however not to mention that hen harriers are, despite these disappearances, at a 200 year high, largely as a result of this project…”
I found the shooters’ so-called Campaign 4 Protection of Moorland Communities’ claim that “Hen harrier numbers ‘now higher than at any other time in the last 200 years'”
However, the ‘article’ then immediately qualified that to “There are now more hen harriers in *England* than at any other time for the last 200 years.” based on a Natural England report, which said there were… just 54 nests in England.
Natural England say “Hen harriers were driven to extinction across mainland Britain during the 19th century as the result of illegal persecution and disturbance, only beginning to recolonise during the 1960’s. Just a decade ago there were no hen harriers nesting successfully in England.”
Natural England do not explain ‘illegal persecution’ by whom? But then, Natural England accept money ‘not to criticise shooting’.
[But compare that figure to Orkney, where there is no grouse shooting, which last recorded 83 nests, despite invasive stoats (there were 100 nests in 2012) or the Uists, where there are estimated to be 40-50 pairs.]
The question which Ben Wilson, Natural England and C4PMC need to answer is how many of these English Hen Harrier fledglings will survive the shooting industry long enough to breed themselves?
Will the English Hen Harrier ever be allowed to become a self-sustaining population?
What the data is beginning to show is that the *more* Hen Harriers there are in England, the *more* will be trapped, shot or poisoned on or near grouse moors (to which they naturally gravitate in order to try to breed).
Is the English Hen Harrier doomed by Natural England to never be allowed to breed on upland shooting moors, and that every English Hen Harrier chick will have to be hand-reared for ever more, just to survive fledging?
I rather doubt the claim of a 200 year high from your tweedy friends given that it was Prince Albert who brought us driven shooting that wasn’t initially popular AND it required the invention of the breech loader. So 200 years ago there were probably many harrier pairs in our uplands getting on with breeding successfully. Also given that throughout the history of DGS its proponents have been trying to exterminate Hen Harrier and have nearly succeeded twice their and your position is astounding hypocrisy.
Also given that most harrier young are reared on United Utilities estate in Bowland or Forestry England land elsewhere and very few BM’d young are entering the breeding population your claim must be seen as entirely specious, particularly as many ( most?) estates still appear to be causing their disappearance. Also the population is still only around 15% of carrying capacity at best, hardly a cause for celebration is it. Those disappearances are sadly predictable as are many of the places they disappear ( time for a map Ruth?)
Disingenuous of you to not mention the reason Hen Harriers are so scarce and have been so since the inception of DGS less than 200 years ago , so that claim about breeding pairs may well be false . Of course is only about 15% of carrying capacity hardly cause for celebration is it. BM has not added enough birds to the population to be responsible for the population rise and these figures do not support a claim of reduced persecution. So your comment unless clarified is entirely specious, particularly UU estate in Bowland and Forestry England land contribute more chicks to the population. The disappeared are almost certainly dead at the hand of man in entirely predictable places ( time for a map Ruth?)
Sickening. Truly and utterly sickening. The UK Hen Harrier scandal highlights everything disgusting and shameful about politics and power in this country. And at the heart of it, these magnificent birds are being tortured. 2023? More like 1066!
The 9 birds you have added to your list are noted on the NE website as Missing, Fate Unknown, with no comment as to their known or suspected fate (apart from one where there is an ongoing investigation). Your post states that they “have ‘disappeared’ in suspicious circumstances”. May I ask where I can source the evidence to support there is something suspicious in their “disappearance”?
Thanks.
‘Patterns of satellite tagged hen harrier disappearances suggest widespread illegal killing on British moors’ (Murgatroyd et al, 2019, Nature Journal):
Click to access widespread-illegal-killing-of-hh-on-british-grouse-moors.pdf
and
‘Illegal killing associated with gamebird management accounts for up to three quarters of annual mortality in hen harriers’ (Ewing et al, 2023, Biological Conservation):
Click to access ewing-et-al-2023-illegal-killing-hh-grouse-moors-biol-consv.pdf
So all other suggested potential reasons, per NE, are dismissed then. I think that renders your figures pretty meaningless. Do you remove these missing birds from your statistic should they later be found to be alive or indeed having died from natural causes?
“If the tag is never found, the bird will be marked on our spreadsheet as ‘missing fate unknown’. These ‘missing’ birds may be birds that have died naturally and could not be found, perhaps due to low accuracy final transmissions or another technical reason – or they could be alive, but with a tag that is no longer transmitting. However, it’s also the case that birds that are illegally killed are very unlikely to be found, as people who kill hen harriers illegally are likely to dispose of the evidence.”
Brocksford:
Well, to start with, they’re not ‘my’ figures, they’re from harriers satellite-tagged by Natural England and RSPB.
The list does not include any HHs that have subsequently been found alive or to have died from natural causes. If you look at the NE spreadsheet you’ll find a number of HHs where evidence of (natural) predation is evident, or where a HH with a non-functioning sat tag has later been seen (and positively identified) by its unique leg ring. I have deliberately not included any of those HHs on ‘my’ list.
It seems from your response that you haven’t read the two scientific papers that I referred you to when you asked for evidence to support the theory that these HHs have been killed illegally. What these papers show is a clear pattern of geographic clustering, disproportionately linking these disappearances to land managed for driven grouse shooting. It’s that pattern that’s key. Yes, it’s possible that one or two of these harriers on the ‘missing’ list may have faulty tags or have died from natural causes, but when you’re looking at the overall picture, that pattern is very telling and it’s ludicrous to suggest that the overall level of disappearances aren’t suspicious.
I guess the grouse shooting industry thought that by removing the evidence they’d get away with these crimes. Well, as commentator Hugh Webster once said, “You can hide the bodies, you can hide the tags, but you can’t hide the pattern”. The Scottish Government has acted on this evidence (in relation to satellite-tagged golden eagles) and a licensing scheme is now in the process of being introduced in an attempt to bring the illegal killing to an end on Scottish grouse moors.
As a member of the game shooting industry, you may choose to ignore the overwhelming scientific evidence of widespread illegal persecution on grouse moors – that’s up to you. But the longer the industry as a whole tries to deny the bleedin’ obvious, the sooner the industry will come crashing down because the general public can see, quite clearly, what’s going on. Scotland first, England will be next.
Raptor Persecution
When I mentioned “your” figures, I was referring to “your” running total :
“I’ve just been through this database and tallied the details against my own running tally” and “I’ll add these additional nine Hen Harriers to the other 113 Hen Harriers “known” to have been killed/’disappeared’ since 2018 (see here).”
It is “your” figures I’m querying, not Natural England’s. I merely asked how you “knew” they had been killed, which I assumed was not an unreasonable question.
I’m not sure why you would suggest I am a member of the “game shooting industry” (whatever that means). I am querying the basis of your inclusion of missing HH on your persection list, that’s all. In fact, for many years I was a member of a Raptor Study group studying a number of species, so you should perhaps try not be so quick to jump to conclusions, including perhaps in regard to your persecution statistics.
I guess the link you’ve provided to a website called ‘osiacastlegundogs’ is a bit of a clue to your membership of the game shooting industry!
Jumping to conclusions again then, not my website…….
I think it’s a perfectly valid conclusion to draw given that you entered the URL for osiacastlegundogs.wordpress.com as part of your log-in on this blog.
Your claim that it isn’t your website is about as believable as every other claim from those within the game shooting industry. Deny, deny, deny is the usual mantra.