A couple of weeks ago Shooting Times published an interview with Police Supt Nick Lyall, Chair of the Raptor Persecution Priority Delivery Group (RPPDG).

The interview took place in February 2019, shortly after the Moorland Association, BASC, Countryside Alliance, National Gamekeepers’ Organisation and Country Land & Business Association chose to boycott Nick’s first RPPDG meeting in a desperate attempt to block progress (see here, here, here, here).
It also took place before the publication of the damning scientific paper showing the link between English grouse moors and extensive hen harrier persecution.
Here’s the interview:


Let’s congratulate the editor of Shooting Times for commissioning and then publishing this, especially at a time when prominent organisations from the game shooting industry were giving Nick Lyall a metaphorical two-fingered salute by challenging his integrity and refusing to attend a so-called ‘partnership’ meeting.
The congratulations would have been more hearty had Shooting Times taken the opportunity to publish the RSPB’s Raptor Crime Hotline number (0300 999 0101) one year after it was launched, but that still seems too difficult. Why is that? Even after the Raptor Crime Hotline was mentioned by Nick in the interview!
The interview itself wasn’t very enlightening, but that’s probably more to do with the style of presentation than anything else. We’re so used to listening to interviews on radio or podcasts, or watching them on TV, where both the question and answer can be heard, allowing us to place the answers in context. But for this interview, we have to rely upon someone else’s interpretation and that’s unsatisfactory for an issue as contentious as illegal raptor persecution because inevitably some answers will be given out of context.
For example, there is this floating paragraph:
‘Later in the interview, he [Nick Lyall] compared shooters involved with raptor offences to the smaller number of corrupt police officers‘.
Really? For such a significant (alleged) statement, it would have been good to have seen the context of that part of the conversation. As a stand alone statement it seems even more unlikely when you read what Nick had said about his understanding of who was committing raptor persecution crimes:
“…….there is clearly organised criminality in terms of multi-million pound industries that are committing persecution offences……..”
Gosh. Which “multi-million pound industry” is he thinking of?
There was also an odd bit at the end of the article where Nick is quoted during a discussion on the use of covert cameras:
“I wouldn’t want to think that I’m sitting in my backyard and somebody is watching me without the authority to do so. So yes, I completely understand where people’s concerns would come from that respect“.
Again, this appears to have been taken out of context. We know, having had conversations with Nick about covert surveillance and the RIPA legislation, that he fully understands that covert cameras aren’t placed anywhere near anyone’s dwelling, let alone pointing at someone’s backyard, as this quote suggests. Rather, cameras are placed on remote moorland, miles from anyone’s house and any chance of intruding on their private lives. Typically they are pointed at the nests of Schedule 1 birds, which nobody should be visiting without a Schedule 1 Disturbance Licence anyway, or at illegally-set pole traps to find out who is operating the trap. To us, it looks like this quote has been included, out of context, simply to play to the shooting industry’s hatred of RSPB covert surveillance which, time and time again, has revealed what really goes on when the criminals think no-one is watching. E.g. here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here
Fortunately Nick Lyall is savvy and proactive enough to be able to present his own views, via his twitter account (@SuptNickLyall) and via his RPPDG blog (here). We know that he continues to work hard behind the scenes and we’re looking forward to seeing the launch of his Operation Owl website in the very near future, which aims to educate, inform and inspire people to get involved with tackling illegal raptor persecution.











